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David Poulin

Well we are buying a CNC. Now What? 6 Replies

Hello Group, Here the story, we are a 5-10 man cabinet making shop located in southern ontario. We produce a moderated amount of kitchen a year, but not enough to keep a CNC machine busy for a compl…

Started by David Poulin. Last reply by Bob Mathews Nov. 13, 2009.

Tom Sams

New To CNC 18 Replies

I have been knocking around the idea of investing in a CNC machin but to date only have the pro's from the salesmen. What are my risks to go along with the rewards?

Started by Tom Sams. Last reply by james mcgrew Nov. 10, 2009.

Kelly Cameron

turning 3 Replies

Anybody out there producing turnings with CNC equipment? I am interested in getting a CNC lathe. Currently I am using manual copy lathes.

Tagged: spindle, turning, CNC

Started by Kelly Cameron. Last reply by james mcgrew Nov. 9, 2009.

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Bob Mathews Comment by Bob Mathews on May 28, 2009 at 4:36pm
I've have a little experience with all 3, what kind of help do you need
Brooks Patterson Comment by Brooks Patterson on May 18, 2009 at 9:08pm
I'm just gonna guess that nobody in here has any experience integrating robotic arms with CNC tech but, if someone does i would love to talk to them. Also, I just bought rail and stile insert cutters for my CNC. Does anyone here make entry doors or use aggregate tooling?? I have lots of questions !!
Jim Wellever Comment by Jim Wellever on April 22, 2009 at 8:50am
Tom, are you currently running design software such as Cabinet Vision or similar? For casework, these systems can be highly effective and efficient. Inmany cases, however, you may have nearly as much invested in software as in the machine. I've consulted with numerous companies that hire my graduates and the many comments about finding that the router changes the way you do things and adds new markets are dead on.
Good luck, Jim
Bob Mathews Comment by Bob Mathews on April 7, 2009 at 4:58pm
What I can tell you for sure is that when your book height falls below abt 2.8 the router will out run the saw when it come to busting up parts. additionally the optimizing software (aka Cut-Rite and others) and the nesting software (aka Sigma nest and others) basically use the same algoryhtim way, way down inside the software and will yield basically the same scrap/offal answer. The nesting software pulls ahead in yield when it comes time to cut up the rest pieces. For the most part the optimizer will give you the same sq footage of "rest pcs as the nesting software but the nesting software ware will give it to you in one pc instead of 2-4pcs. (we ran 10 trials to prove the point because it seemed unlikely)
Larry Schweitzer Comment by Larry Schweitzer on April 6, 2009 at 10:24am
Buying the wrong machine for the intended work, finding out that there are other things you should have considered other than the "intended" work. (In my case, I'd sure like to have a C-axis) If most of your work is panel processing, nesting is a great time saver. If you are going to process solid lumber or handle large volumes of panels to same pattern coming off a stack cut panel saw then maybe a pod & rail machine. Are you going to use it for any V grooving work (C-axis & aggregates.) Heavy cuts or just 3/4" panels? All day, two shifts, an hour a day? Table size - If you do fixtures or commercial work a 5x12 table is a good idea. I'm personally un-convinced of the need to be able to cut at 2000"/min. Will the available tooling cut cleanly, or the vacuum hold down hold well enough at the production speed promoted? 1800" does not double your output over 900"/min. Unless you are cutting big panels very little of the total time is spent at full speed. Do you have or might you get shapers or tenoners that use the same tool holders? The leaning curve for the machine isn't usually too bad but the software can be a killer!
Kurt Nielsen Comment by Kurt Nielsen on April 6, 2009 at 8:50am
I have a CNC rail and pod system. Primarily used for rail and stile doors. We also make a number of custom jigs for other products. You will find that after time (short) you are running items that were not part of your original program. The key element that I have found is friendly software. The various machines are similar in their features, the ease of programming is key.
I worked with a salesmen, Tom Betchwars 715-355-0534, Millwork Specialist. He represents a couple different companies and can provide the plus and minus of each style machine for your operation.
If you would like to discuss CNC operations please call at 678-819-6228.
Bruce Poling Comment by Bruce Poling on April 3, 2009 at 5:31pm
Nesting CNC integrations and and ERP system has been my specialty for many years now. I would be happy to answer direct questions it that will help.

Cheers .. Bruce
Hermance Machine Company Comment by Hermance Machine Company on March 31, 2009 at 7:06am
Tom, those are certainly the key points to consider when decided on the machine package you will purchase. We have a few guys here who are really knowledgeable in the CNC machinery area. If you'd like, I can put you in touch and they should be able to point you in the right direction. Just let me know and good luck on your hunt!
Tom Sams Comment by Tom Sams on March 31, 2009 at 5:42am
Thank you all for the great imput. Now comes the task of finding the right machine to not only do what I want it to do, but without breaking the bank. I am not one who thinks a machine like this is the answer to eternal happiness, but in the few productive years I have left in the shop I want to make the best of it from a profit stand point. Which leads me to my most difficult question. What should I be looking for in a CNC machine package. I primarily do commercial casework, specializing in Plam faced products. I like jobs that are in the $20 - $40K range with a 1 -2 week in shop turn around. Jobs of this size are very doable for me now, but as the old age thing begins to creep in, I am noticing the wear and tear on the old body becoming more of an issue.
Bruce Poling Comment by Bruce Poling on March 29, 2009 at 4:40pm
only one real reason to make a change in your business .. It will make you more profit.
 

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